Comments on: Defense of Democracies Offers to Debate Rep. Walz on Terrorist Surveillance « Defense of Democracies http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/ an ex-Republicans View of the World, and his campaign efforts Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:57:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ron Amundson’s Political Blog » Winona County DFL Banquet http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Ron Amundson’s Political Blog » Winona County DFL Banquet Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:36:56 +0000 http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/#comment-28 [...] Walz sent a representative, and they talked a bit about the FISA bill which I blogged about previously. His staff seem to really be on top of [...] [...] Walz sent a representative, and they talked a bit about the FISA bill which I blogged about previously. His staff seem to really be on top of [...]

]]> By: Ron http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Ron Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:56:54 +0000 http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/#comment-19 Feedback, even negative feedback is so incredible powerful in a wide range of venues. But it is also scary. The first time I ended up in the lion's den with a few hundred angry netizens in full attack mode was scary for sure.. Now, while its still scary a bit, I value the feedback immensely, so much so, I volunteer for all the "fun" stuff. My guess is the push for retroactive immunity falls into gray areas of the law, which could lead to protracted court time or worse. Then throw in the likely hood of a significant swing in constitutional value sets in the executive branch, and they are paranoid, and rightly so. Feedback, even negative feedback is so incredible powerful in a wide range of venues. But it is also scary. The first time I ended up in the lion’s den with a few hundred angry netizens in full attack mode was scary for sure.. Now, while its still scary a bit, I value the feedback immensely, so much so, I volunteer for all the “fun” stuff.

My guess is the push for retroactive immunity falls into gray areas of the law, which could lead to protracted court time or worse. Then throw in the likely hood of a significant swing in constitutional value sets in the executive branch, and they are paranoid, and rightly so.

]]> By: Minnesota Central http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Minnesota Central Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:21:10 +0000 http://www.ronamundson.com/blog/2008/02/25/defense-of-democracies-offers-to-debate-rep-walz-on-terrorist-surveillance-%c2%ab-defense-of-democracies/#comment-18 Good analysis. Did you notice that McCarthy's statement is closed for comments. They don't want your opinion ... nor the facts ... just to promote their agenda. What's that expression - the lie becomes the truth only when someone comes to believe it. The uninformed become believers ... fear-mongering is an effective tool. The only issue is Amnesty for the telecoms. I suspect that the new law gives them all the legal protection that they need for any actions they perform after the law takes effect .... why do they need retro-active immunity unless they did something wrong? Any good prosecutor, as Mr. McCarthy's bio indicates, would not want some legislative body taking away his "tool" to obtain the truth. Good analysis.

Did you notice that McCarthy’s statement is closed for comments. They don’t want your opinion … nor the facts … just to promote their agenda. What’s that expression – the lie becomes the truth only when someone comes to believe it. The uninformed become believers … fear-mongering is an effective tool.

The only issue is Amnesty for the telecoms.
I suspect that the new law gives them all the legal protection that they need for any actions they perform after the law takes effect …. why do they need retro-active immunity unless they did something wrong?

Any good prosecutor, as Mr. McCarthy’s bio indicates, would not want some legislative body taking away his “tool” to obtain the truth.

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